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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://systemsboy.com/2009/07/iphone-hand-me-down.html/comment-page-1#comment-1285</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! Will try that tonight at home. Love the site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! Will try that tonight at home. Love the site!</p>
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		<title>By: systemsboy</title>
		<link>http://systemsboy.com/2009/07/iphone-hand-me-down.html/comment-page-1#comment-1284</link>
		<dc:creator>systemsboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t seem dumb at all. I was confused about all this as well, which is why I wrote the article. There seems to be no place where all this is clearly documented.

The answer is that, yes, you can in fact use the iPhone as an iPod even without the SIM card. But you will need a SIM to use the phone functionality. I have now sold mine to my colleague, and he&#039;s using it just fine, sans SIM card. Even has WiFi.

-systemsboy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t seem dumb at all. I was confused about all this as well, which is why I wrote the article. There seems to be no place where all this is clearly documented.</p>
<p>The answer is that, yes, you can in fact use the iPhone as an iPod even without the SIM card. But you will need a SIM to use the phone functionality. I have now sold mine to my colleague, and he&#8217;s using it just fine, sans SIM card. Even has WiFi.</p>
<p>-systemsboy</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry my above comment may seem really dumb since I neglected to say I only want to use the iPhone as an iPod. I don&#039;t have or want AT&amp;T phone service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry my above comment may seem really dumb since I neglected to say I only want to use the iPhone as an iPod. I don&#8217;t have or want AT&amp;T phone service.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you even use an iPhone without a SIM card? I just bought an old 3g phone from a friend and he reset everything but kept the SIM card in it. He asked that I just replace his old one with a new one and he is under the impression that the phone won&#039;t work without the card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you even use an iPhone without a SIM card? I just bought an old 3g phone from a friend and he reset everything but kept the SIM card in it. He asked that I just replace his old one with a new one and he is under the impression that the phone won&#8217;t work without the card.</p>
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		<title>By: systemsboy</title>
		<link>http://systemsboy.com/2009/07/iphone-hand-me-down.html/comment-page-1#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator>systemsboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Sam. Hope it works out for you.

-systemsboy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sam. Hope it works out for you.</p>
<p>-systemsboy</p>
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		<title>By: systemsboy</title>
		<link>http://systemsboy.com/2009/07/iphone-hand-me-down.html/comment-page-1#comment-1264</link>
		<dc:creator>systemsboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toni,

Arg! That&#039;s bad news. A fairly quick Google search reveals someone who had a similar problem:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1706643

Their problem apparently cleared up on its own by unplugging and replugging the phone a few times. If that doesn&#039;t work I&#039;d suggest first trying removal of the SIM card. Then see if you can activate using iTunes. If not, I&#039;d probably recommend doing a force restore of your original data, then removing the passcode, and then repeating the erasure process.

It&#039;s a drag, I know, but what you&#039;re describing shouldn&#039;t happen. I would think that erasing the phone using this method would also erase any passcode locks. But honestly, I don&#039;t know for sure. This is an area where we could really use some more documentation from Apple, which is why I posted my article. But there&#039;s still a lot that&#039;s unclear, and no easy way to get a solid answer.

As a last resort, you could always call Apple or AT&amp;T.

Please let me know if you discover a resolution to the problem.

-systemsboy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toni,</p>
<p>Arg! That&#8217;s bad news. A fairly quick Google search reveals someone who had a similar problem:<br />
<a href="http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1706643" rel="nofollow">http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1706643</a></p>
<p>Their problem apparently cleared up on its own by unplugging and replugging the phone a few times. If that doesn&#8217;t work I&#8217;d suggest first trying removal of the SIM card. Then see if you can activate using iTunes. If not, I&#8217;d probably recommend doing a force restore of your original data, then removing the passcode, and then repeating the erasure process.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a drag, I know, but what you&#8217;re describing shouldn&#8217;t happen. I would think that erasing the phone using this method would also erase any passcode locks. But honestly, I don&#8217;t know for sure. This is an area where we could really use some more documentation from Apple, which is why I posted my article. But there&#8217;s still a lot that&#8217;s unclear, and no easy way to get a solid answer.</p>
<p>As a last resort, you could always call Apple or AT&amp;T.</p>
<p>Please let me know if you discover a resolution to the problem.</p>
<p>-systemsboy</p>
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		<title>By: Toni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried what you said but when I plugged the Iphone in to iTunes it says that it is locked with a passcode. When I try to enter a passcode on the iPhone, it is in emergency call mode and there is no way to unlock the passcode. Is there any way around the catch 22.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried what you said but when I plugged the Iphone in to iTunes it says that it is locked with a passcode. When I try to enter a passcode on the iPhone, it is in emergency call mode and there is no way to unlock the passcode. Is there any way around the catch 22.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well written article. Thanks for posting it. I had the same concerns.
Your technique of using another account was smart.
I will log in to my computer using a &quot;guest&quot; account (a feature of 10.5) and go from there.
Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written article. Thanks for posting it. I had the same concerns.<br />
Your technique of using another account was smart.<br />
I will log in to my computer using a &#8220;guest&#8221; account (a feature of 10.5) and go from there.<br />
Thanks again.</p>
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