Comments on: Tiger’s Inspector: A Persistent Complaint http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint.html Big, Honkin' Systems Stuff Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:19:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: systemsboy http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint.html/comment-page-1#comment-446 systemsboy Fri, 21 Jul 2006 23:06:00 +0000 http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint/#comment-446 Wow. That's actually pretty shocking. I just assumed that this was a display problem in the Finder's Inspector. But it sounds like it's much deeper than that.<br/><br/>Thanks for the info.<br/><br/>-systemsboy Wow. That’s actually pretty shocking. I just assumed that this was a display problem in the Finder’s Inspector. But it sounds like it’s much deeper than that.

Thanks for the info.

-systemsboy

]]> By: Anonymous http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint.html/comment-page-1#comment-445 Anonymous Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:12:00 +0000 http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint/#comment-445 I suspect this bug may be related to an even worse bug I reported to apple regarding the finder and apple script. If you query permission and ownership info from the finder via apple script, then change the permissions (with say a shell script) and requery, it does not return the updated changes. I suspect this bug may be related to an even worse bug I reported to apple regarding the finder and apple script. If you query permission and ownership info from the finder via apple script, then change the permissions (with say a shell script) and requery, it does not return the updated changes.

]]> By: systemsboy http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint.html/comment-page-1#comment-444 systemsboy Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:00:00 +0000 http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint/#comment-444 matx,<br/><br/>I agree with you on the Finder improvements (I remember RBrowser from my ORIGINAL OSX Server — pre-Aqua), which is why this Inspector bug seems like a step backwards to me. I certainly do all my permissions changes from the Terminal, but when you just need to quickly check permissions on a bunch of files in various directories, that Inspector trick was damn handy and I miss it. But more than anything it just sticks in my craw that it's gone unfixed for so long. Argh!<br/><br/>Guess I'll really have to work on teaching my assistants some UNIX.<br/><br/>-systemsboy matx,

I agree with you on the Finder improvements (I remember RBrowser from my ORIGINAL OSX Server — pre-Aqua), which is why this Inspector bug seems like a step backwards to me. I certainly do all my permissions changes from the Terminal, but when you just need to quickly check permissions on a bunch of files in various directories, that Inspector trick was damn handy and I miss it. But more than anything it just sticks in my craw that it’s gone unfixed for so long. Argh!

Guess I’ll really have to work on teaching my assistants some UNIX.

-systemsboy

]]> By: systemsboy http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint.html/comment-page-1#comment-443 systemsboy Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:52:00 +0000 http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint/#comment-443 Nigel,<br/><br/><i>"Maybe we should try and organise an exchange program... :)"</i><br/><br/>Maybe a support group is more in order.<br/><br/>-systemsboy Nigel,

“Maybe we should try and organise an exchange program… :) ”

Maybe a support group is more in order.

-systemsboy

]]> By: matx http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint.html/comment-page-1#comment-442 matx Fri, 14 Jul 2006 03:13:00 +0000 http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint/#comment-442 The Finder in OSX has improved a lot since it appeared in OSX public beta, when it was so bad, I remember using rbrowser, an ftp app, just to move files around in the GUI. He he. But the modern finder in Tiger is still flawed, very much so. I never realized how bad until I left my art mac admin job and became a VFX tech. Dealing with 100,000 files in single folder makes the Finder severely barf. I have taught the use of Terminal successfully to editors, artists and others. But those resistant can use some Applescripts which do the shell scripts for them. Don't even try to use the finder.... As for permissions, something we have to deal with all the time, it's Terminal or nothing. ls -lh (not using ACLs in our Xsan centred environment). The Finder in OSX has improved a lot since it appeared in OSX public beta, when it was so bad, I remember using rbrowser, an ftp app, just to move files around in the GUI. He he. But the modern finder in Tiger is still flawed, very much so. I never realized how bad until I left my art mac admin job and became a VFX tech. Dealing with 100,000 files in single folder makes the Finder severely barf. I have taught the use of Terminal successfully to editors, artists and others. But those resistant can use some Applescripts which do the shell scripts for them. Don’t even try to use the finder…. As for permissions, something we have to deal with all the time, it’s Terminal or nothing. ls -lh (not using ACLs in our Xsan centred environment).

]]> By: Nigel Kersten http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint.html/comment-page-1#comment-441 Nigel Kersten Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:35:00 +0000 http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint/#comment-441 Not just a fellow Mac admin, but a fellow Mac Art School admin. :)<br/><br/>Maybe we should try and organise an exchange program... :)<br/><br/>mmm. Nothing like that particularly unique blend of artist and academic... Not just a fellow Mac admin, but a fellow Mac Art School admin. :)

Maybe we should try and organise an exchange program… :)

mmm. Nothing like that particularly unique blend of artist and academic…

]]> By: systemsboy http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint.html/comment-page-1#comment-440 systemsboy Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:18:00 +0000 http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint/#comment-440 Too true. Permissions in the Finder are hosed. I'm comfortable with permissions in the CLI, but most of my students and assistants are not, so it can be a problem. Plus, it's just annoying. The old Inspector was great (and better than the shell for certain things). Though regarding ACLs, I'm still new to them, and I find the CLI output really hard to read. I guess I'll eventually get used to it. Been using Sandbox 'til then, which helps a great deal.<br/><br/>BTW, just looked over your blog. Looks nice. I'll check it out more thoroughly when I get a chance. Nice to hear from a fellow admin.<br/><br/>Cheers!<br/><br/>-systemsboy Too true. Permissions in the Finder are hosed. I’m comfortable with permissions in the CLI, but most of my students and assistants are not, so it can be a problem. Plus, it’s just annoying. The old Inspector was great (and better than the shell for certain things). Though regarding ACLs, I’m still new to them, and I find the CLI output really hard to read. I guess I’ll eventually get used to it. Been using Sandbox ’til then, which helps a great deal.

BTW, just looked over your blog. Looks nice. I’ll check it out more thoroughly when I get a chance. Nice to hear from a fellow admin.

Cheers!

-systemsboy

]]> By: Nigel Kersten http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint.html/comment-page-1#comment-439 Nigel Kersten Wed, 12 Jul 2006 04:25:00 +0000 http://systemsboy.com/2006/07/tigers-inspector-a-persistent-complaint/#comment-439 There are so many things broken with viewing permissions in the Finder, particularly with complicated ACLs... that I just give up and use the shell. There are so many things broken with viewing permissions in the Finder, particularly with complicated ACLs… that I just give up and use the shell.

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